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at this time we're going to take

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mr. Hastings we'll take it from here

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mr. Hastings you had mentioned that this

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is an ongoing phenomenon is there an

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incident later than 1980 that you are

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aware of and then also are there any

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testimonies here today that are new that

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have not yet been documented or been in

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the public domain this is a

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cross-section of the witnesses who come

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forward

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the latest incident involving nuclear

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missiles was at Malmstrom Air Force Base

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in 2007 however the person is still

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active duty Air Force I'm not going to

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elaborate on that until that person is

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separated from the Air Force another

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incident occurred at the Nellis Air

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Force Base Nevada area two weapons

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storage area a series of incidents the

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latest being in April of oh three in

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which there were unidentified aerial

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objects maneuvering near the weapons

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bunkers at that facility

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more recently civilian sighting reports

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in Orange County California at the Naval

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Seal Beach Naval Weapons Station a

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series of bunkers again containing

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nuclear weapons there were local media

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reports of multiple sightings in March

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of oh nine and near this weapons storage

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facility this is ongoing this is the tip

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of the iceberg we can only catch as

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catch can I am of the opinion that for

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every incident that I'm aware of and in

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for witnesses that we've we've got in

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hand there could be 10 there could be a

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hundred there could be many many more

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incidents that I'll never know about

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because the people won't come forward

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they'll wait years or decades to talk

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about what they know and is any anything

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that has been said here I know I've

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heard missed the incident mr. Hult

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referred to I've seen Mr Sallis is there

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anything here other people that you've

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heard here today I

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and you have not heard about the

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testimony of the majority of these

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people have not hit the national

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airwaves so to speak or the national

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media

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there have been rep sites I've written

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articles and so on but the majority of

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these witnesses have not received

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national or international exposure

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spencer ackerman with Wired mr. Hastings

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could you elaborate on why you've

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speculated that the unidentified flying

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objects that all of you have described

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were possessed the agenda of trying to

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tell us to turn away from our path of

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use of nuclear weapons are there are

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there are other potential explanations

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that you've considered and found less

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plausible is there a possible offensive

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threat to the world from from these UFOs

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as I said in my introductory remarks

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that's speculative on my part however

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given the available evidence that is a

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plausible scenario we can clearly say

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based on radar data which are empirical

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not anecdotal that these objects have

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been tracks since the early 1950s if not

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earlier traveling up to 7,000 miles per

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hour making right angle turns at high

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rates of speed instantaneously hovering

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reversing course if we or the Russians

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or any country on earth had those kinds

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of craft in the early 50s

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why have we spent the last several

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decades developing fixed-wing aircraft

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of far inferior abilities these are

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clearly in my view a technology from

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somewhere else piloted by beings from

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obviously another world or another

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dimension moreover the fact that

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missiles have been tampered with here

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and in the former Soviet Union and on

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one occasion in each country about which

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I am aware actually activated I think we

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can rule out that these are the

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Americans attempting to start World War

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3 or the Russians attempting to start

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World War 3 again the technology

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involved is so superior and we cannot

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conceive of a logical scenario whereby

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either of our countries would attempt to

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activate nuclear missiles for any reason

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now our opinion is that whoever these

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beans are they are indeed attempting to

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send a signal that we are playing with

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fire that we are gambling with the

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humans races future there are other

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possible scenarios I have half jokingly

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said from time to time maybe they're

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planning to invade Earth and they they

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don't want to inherit a radioactive

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environment when they do now I don't

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believe that's what's going on by any

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from whoever they are and what their

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intentions are except we will have our

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minds expanded there will be a paradigm

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shift traditional institutions such as

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religions governments other social

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institutions may indeed by threatened be

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threatened by what is coming that is

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just the logical consequence of what is

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about to occur but if indeed this earth

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is being visited by other races and if

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those races are one or more races are in

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fact repeatedly monitoring and sometimes

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tampering with our nuclear weapons that

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secret in our view should not be kept

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from the citizens of this planet any

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longer but you don't think there's an

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offensive element to their to their

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contact I don't think there's any

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potential hostility except again to

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close minded people they're maneuvered

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up here and especially in my case they

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could have done a lot more damaged in

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permanent damage to our weapons systems

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and they didn't know all of these

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weapons in in my case were brought back

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up on alert it took a day or so but

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everything was fine if they wanted to

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destroy them with all the powers they

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seemed to have I think they could have

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done that job so I personally don't

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think this was a hostile intent hi my

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name is John Kelly I'm a columnist at

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The Washington Post

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Colonel halt you mentioned that when you

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went out you had

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a cassette recorder a Geiger counter you

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said a camera camera 35 millimeter

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camera did so first of all did you take

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any photographs and second how does a

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cassette tape made by you presumably for

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official purposes end up at a cocktail

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party entertaining guests okay two

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questions let me answer the first one

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the disaster preparedness individual I

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took along Tex Arden Monroe nevels also

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worked for the base newspaper part-time

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he was professional photographer on the

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side had a degree in photography

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he took numerous pictures pictures the

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indentations pictures of the broken

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branches he tried to take pictures of

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the objects in the sky he took the film

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back home and it all came I fog certain

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Penniston took his film to the photo lab

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and turned it in and they told him it

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disappeared I can't answer that I did

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not

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I had to micro set recorder so I took my

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tape recorder along it was a little

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micro cassette one his little tiny ones

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I still have it by the way I came back

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and after the tape was played at third

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Air Force and I played it for Squadron

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Leader Moreland and several other people

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Ted Conrad's my boss since they make me

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a copy so I made him a copy he put it in

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a desk drawer in his desk drawer he

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moved on and it was replaced and the

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gentleman replaced him thought it was

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hilarious to play the tape I didn't know

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this at the time at cocktail parties so

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he was playing a copy a copy of that

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copy somehow or other Gatto gentleman by

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the name of Harry Harris the British

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banister or a lawyer

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Harry was the amateur UF ologist he and

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I by the name of Max Ike Mac sent Mike

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sacks I traced his stein years later and

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a couple of ladies named Brenda Butler

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dot Street and Jenny Randall's who were

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writing a book at that time all got

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involved and my tape got out into the

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public domain a copy of my tape what's

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on the internet now is probably a fifth

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sixth or seventh generation but it's out

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there and my final question which does

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require somebody to speak is you know

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how society and the mainstream media

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sort of are very dismissive of all this

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can one or two of you talk about sort of

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the personal journey you've come to in

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terms of you know approaching family or

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friends or others about this when people

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may think that's kooky to talk about

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this can one of you talk about how you

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know how was it difficult how difficult

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was it that sort of thing thank you well

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as a person who is very very skeptical

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about this what I called UFO nonsense

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when that happened that night and I

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thought through the process of what the

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logical explanations are after that I

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was very careful about who I told what

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because some of my friends when I

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started on this just laughed so I got

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ridiculed by the obvious used to the

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ridicule from the Air Force except for

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the dual standard we're going to

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ridicule but it's secret don't talk

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about and and coming out was was my I

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came out a little bit I talked to Robert

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my name McMahon I was concerned I don't

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want to be considered a kook I don't

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want it you know because because I

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consider not so many anymore

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but I consider some of the extremists a

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bit kooky but I think it's more

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important that we come out and tell our

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story rationally and see that we are

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cooks and this is what happened and make

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your own judgment but I am one of my

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concerns is that you all think I'm a

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coke and I mauled enough that I don't

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really care that much because it

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happened so is that okay 68 going on 95

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a decision decades ago that no matter

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who laughed at me or threw things at me

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I would speak what I knew to be the

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facts the world is filled with

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self-appointed UFO experts persons who

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have all the answers even though they've

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studied none of the facts the scientific

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community is chock-full of those folks

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journalism frankly is chock-full of

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those folks we're presenting credible

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witnesses for open minds people who have

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an objective sense of their duty to

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inform the American public about the

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reality of the situation we're providing

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you not only these witnesses but many

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other witnesses who can testify as to

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the reality of all of this and you may

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draw your own conclusions the reason I

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came to the conclusion that the this was

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a message simply again they could have

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done a lot more destruction I think to

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our weapons systems and they didn't it

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was simply shining a light on our

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nuclear weapons and literally literally

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shining a light on nuclear facilities

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this has happened all over the world I

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can I can point to other instances where

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UFOs came over shone a beam down on the

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weapons storage area where nukes were

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stored to me it's pretty clear this is

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just you know we're we're shining a

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light on this we're pointing it out what

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are you people doing with nuclear

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weapons mr. Arnesen

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you mentioned someone over there trying

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to send us a message I wonder what kind

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of a message do those aliens consider

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our earth people have the threat to them

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or they just try to defend or they try

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to come here to occupy take over Earth

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what kind of a message

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if I knew that answer I wouldn't be here

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I really don't know right but they're

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they're trying to tell us something

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without it without a question whether

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it's don't go much further you could get

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rid of the things I don't have any idea

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are they from the Extra Terrestrial who

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knows are they from other dimensions who

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knows are they from underneath the earth

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know what else your guess is as good as

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mine and I can't answer that question

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government are trying to conceal this

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information the fact actually for many

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for all those years do you think this

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will do good for the society stability

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or is the kind of preventive for some

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advanced or further research

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what would the potential changes be for

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society would this be good let me

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briefly summarize and say in 1975 a

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former CIA official Victor Marchetti

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wrote a best-selling book called the CIA

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and cult of intelligence the CIA took

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him to the Supreme Court to attempt

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public bloc publication of that book

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ultimately a redacted version of it was

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released it was the first book in

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American history to be censored by the

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US government the same Victor Marchetti

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in 1979 wrote an article for second Look

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magazine title I believe was how the CIA

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views the UFO phenomenon he said among

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other things this subject was so

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sensitive that you did not talk about it

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in the agency unless you had a need to

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nevertheless there were rumors floating

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around at the highest levels of CIA

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about recovered crash UFOs and the

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bodies of their crews thirdly Victor

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Marchetti said in his opinion as an

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intelligence analyst with CIA for I

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think 11 years he was of the opinion

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that no government on earth will

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voluntarily release this information

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because it would jeopardize the status

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quo ie their power even if there's no

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hostile intent or implication to the

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visitation of these beings if indeed

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these are extraterrestrials even if

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they're not meaning us any harm

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whatsoever

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governments have nothing to gain and

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everything to lose by admitting the

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reality of this and Victor marchetti's

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opinion is that this will probably come

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out you know buy some action on the part

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of the fenomena it's phenomenon itself

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which will leave no doubt in anyone's

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mind but don't expect Washington or

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Moscow or any other government to

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volunteer all the reality of all of this

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do you think that this evidence of

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malfeasance ranks up there with not

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telling the public about alien or UFO

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intrusion at nuclear sites is there is

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there an equation I don't know about

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ranking but it points out the dangers of

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nuclear weapons the fact that these

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accidents have occurred serious

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accidents with with nuclear weapons and

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and it's it just it just points out to

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how dangerous it is that we have them I

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don't know how how to compare that with

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the cover-up

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I'd have done an analysis of the

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cover-up and I'll be glad to give it to

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any of you guys that are interested and

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I but I think it's it's related and the

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fact that the cover-up of the fact that

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the UFOs did intercede with our nuclear

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weapons is extremely important thank you

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for coming again all of us will be

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available for one-on-one interviews for

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some period of time thank you